I have a K-22 Masterpiece, pre model number, with 2 numbers. I have a K-22 Masterpiece, pre model number, with 2 numbers. The bottom of the butt has K 202623, the area under the crane has number 26463 stamped there. K-22 2nd Model / K22 Masterpiece First use of the micrometer click rear sight. Add 100 percent premium. Only about 1,000 K-22 Masterpieces manufactured in 1940 in serial number range 682,420-696,952.

S&W revolver names before World War IIName Caliber Frame.22 Hand Ejector Ladysmith 22 Long M.22/32 Target 22 Long Rifle I.22 Outdoorsman 22 Long Rifle K.32 Hand Ejector (round Butt) 32 S&W Long I.32 Regulation Police (Square Butt) 32 S&W Long I.32-20 Hand Ejector 32-20 Win. K.38 Military&Police 38 Spl K.38 Hand Ejector (same as above, withadjustable sights).38 Regulation Police (Square Butt) 38 S&W I.38 Terrier 2' Round Butt 38 S&W I.38/44 Heavy Duty (fixed sights) 38 Spl N.38/44 Outdoorsman (Adj.

Sights) 38 Spl N.357 Magnum 357 Mag N.44 HAnd Ejector Military Model 44 Spl N.44 Hand ejector Model 1926 44 Spl N(shrouded extractor rod).45 U.S. Posting above continued here.DATING A S&WPlease note that this list is a general guide and not meant to be exact. There is some dispute regarding the dates on some serial numbers and your gun may actually be a year off from what is listed. The precise shipping date as 'lettered' can be several years off depending on model.

Dating a Smith & Wesson Revolver: This list is merely a general guide and not meant to be exact. There is some dispute regarding the dates on some serial numbers. Your gun may actually be a year off from what is listed. The precise shipping date as 'lettered' can be several years off depending on model.

For the exact date on your gun request the letter from S&W Historian Roy Jinks.Pre-War N frame.Year/Beginning Serial1908. 4550 None-1936. STUMPED and couldn't sleep.I have a S&W Revolver given to me in the 1990's.It has never been fired since I have owned it. It shows significant holster and carry wear but is in good shape.The problem is I have NO idea what I have.

The serial numbers have no letters, it has a lanyard strap in the grip butt and Trade Mark is on the right side.Not looking for value as it is sentimental.Thanks for ANY advice or direction,MattTHANKS TO EVERYONE! FPrice is going to help explain. This is a quandry with what we found. STUMPED and couldn't sleep.I have a S&W Revolver given to me by a widow in the 1990's.It has never been fired since I have owned it. It shows significant holster and carry wear but is in good shape.The problem is I have NO idea what I have.

The serial numbers have no letters, it has a lanyard strap in the grip butt and Trade Mark is on the right side.Is there anyone that I can send photos to that may be able to help me? I don't have the means to send a request to S&W currently.OR a local dealer very knowledgeable about Smith's who are not going to make a sale?

(Metro Boston)Not looking for value as it is sentimental. Please feel free to email me it that is easier.Thanks for ANY advice or direction,Matt.

Smith and Wesson made a lot of guns. We sometimes debate their efficiency at tracking serials. Part of our confusion comes from us not having a clear idea of how and when they were assigned, and how and when assembly numbers were assigned. Shenzhen i/o crack.

Its also probably important that those methods may have changed over time (remember, they've been in business for a while.)S&W is known to hold blocks of numbers for some purposes. Euro truck simulator 2 - vive la france download for mac os. It means if they want to build a comemmorative, all the guns have sequential numbers. Or sometimes, anyhow.

It doesn't mean they were all completed the same day or week, just that someone went to the effort to assure they had similar numbers.From what I can glean from the books on the subject, S&W logs in guns when they move from production/inspection to the 'vault', the place where they're shipped from. The letters we beg from Roy indicate another date, the date they're shipped from the vault. It may be important that those may be the same day, or a date years later.Some guns were hot sellers. S&W is a business. They, like all other business entities have cash flow problems and concerns. If they have a completed gun, and a willing customer, they ship it.

They also completed some batch blocks of guns. Its just cheaper and easier to build the same configuration guns at the same time. Even if there isn't a ready and willing customer.We also know S&W made some ugly ducklings. Many of us don't feel that way today. But there was a time frame where you almost couldn't give away a Heavy Duty or Outdoorsman. So they languished.

Probably in the vault.All an adjacent serial number means is that the guns were probably in production at the same time, maybe even side by side for a few steps in the production process, maybe separated on different racks, too. We just don't know and Roy hasn't indicated if records exist of various guns in various stages. Its probably safe to say many gun frames were sequentially numbered at about the same time. Its an internal control issue.But we also find guns from time to time where the factory has no records of them existing. Its not unusual for one of us to blow our meager allowances on letters. Only to get one back that says 'Open on Company books.' We have no idea what that phrase really means, but probably any of a number of things, including stolen (lunchbox guns), destroyed during production, pulled out for some reason and never shipped or sold, given to an employee for whatever reason, etc.

I've got a beautiful early Centennial that came back that way. It just happens.We seem to read way to much into serial numbers. A lot of are willing to pay a premium, some time a multiple of fair market, just to obtain a desireable number.

I've done it before and I'll do it again. The family (my family) owns 2 637s.

Younger son covets the one with a 'CCW' prefix. Two reasons, he doesn't clean his guns, and the CCW is new/pristine, and its just a cool number. Sebago Son owns a K22. He mercilessly lofts it over my head because he located it in a chicken coop, and because it has K117 on the underside. All I've managed to score are K155 and K166. And I was mad at Blake (one of our posters) because he let K141 escape to an unwashed heathen owner. The guy who owned K137 wouldn't sell it to me, nor would the owner of K188.So maybe I should rephrase the first sentence of that last paragraph.

I read way too much into serial numbers! F.t.B D Green has it right. Researching serial numbers, by the historian,starts with the shipping ledgers.

These were ( and perhaps still are)bound volumes that were pre-printed with serial numbers, in numericalorder. There are several sets of these books, because there weredifferent models with the same serial numbers.When a gun was shipped, its serial number was located in the rightbook, and the shipping date, and destination are recorded in the book,on the line that contains its preprinted serial number. This is whereall history starts. And, as you can see, this scheme is independentof when the gun was actually manufactured.Given a serial number, and a model, the shipping ledger yeilds one oftwo pieces of information.

Either there is a shipping date, or therest of the line is blank, meaning that the serial number is open onthe shipping ledger.Assuming there is a shipping date, that now becomes the key intothe invoice ledgers, which are books ordered by shipping date. Knowingthe shipping date, and the destination, the historian goes throughthose entries ( all together ), and tries to locate the invoice by usingthe destination information ( name of person/business receiving thegun). Once the invoice is located, then hopefully it will containinformation on how the gun was configured, if it was special.Sometimes the invoices have useful information, sometimes not.Sometimes target revolvers are identified as such, sometimes not.The price of the revolver is on the invoice, of course, and from thatthe historian can tell if the gun had adjustable, or fixed sights.Note that nowhere in any of this research trail is the date ofmanufacture.Regards, Mike Priwer. The factory manufactured frames in 'runs'. 100 or 1,000 or even perhaps 5,000. As these runs were done, the frames were each given a serial number.

The parts were also given an assembly number to keep all of the matching and hand fitted parts together during the assembly process. Even stocks that were fitted to the frame received a serial number. Once the guns were completed, they were boxed and stored in the vault awaiting shipment. IIRC, the factory even jumped around within given serial number blocks just to keep the competition from figuring out how many guns they were producing at any given point in time.When an order was received for a given model, the shipping clerk went into the vault and pulled the necessary guns for shipment.

The clerk did not pay attention to serial number order as these were pieces of inventory and he only needed a correct number of the correct model to fill the order. The serial numbers were recorded as they left the factory for inventory control purposes but not as a method of dating the guns manufacture.S&W was in the business to make and sell guns in the present and did not think about how crazy collectors would get at some future time about serial numbers and their relationship to dates.The books can give you a range of serial numbers used for a particular model and the basic years that these guns were manufactured, however, looking at a serial number chart does not give you the actual manufacture or shipping date. Only the company historian can give you that by looking up the serial number in the shipping ledgers.We have seen many cases where a lower serial number gun has a shipping date far later than a gun with a higher serial number.It is possible that somewhere there are records, like the day books, that show what serial numbered guns were built on any given day and hence supply the date of manufacture, but the historian uses the shipping records and thus those are the shipping date.I hope that this helps. It sounds confusing, but it really isn't if you think about it.The Smith & Wesson Historical Foundation and its effort to digitize the company records may afford future collectors the ability to search a given serial number and find all relevant company records and correspondence pertaining to that gun. Unfortunately, that is thousands of investment dollars away. So support the SWHF by sending what you can today!!! Hello I'm looking at a k-22 ser# 99945 on the frame and swing arm but the # on the cyl does not match.

Were the cylinders stamp with the frame #'s? ThanksJim, the numbers visible on the opposing surfaces of frame and yoke are soft fitting numbers, not the serial number of the gun. The serial number is found on the butt of the gun, and may not be visible if covered by target stocks. That number is also found on the rear face of the cylinder and the flat underside of the barrel. It also appears in a couple of other places, but it is harder to see.A postwar K-22 with no Model designation will have a serial number with a K prefix. And I know of one in the 640000 range that lettered as shipping in early 1932. I wouldn't have believed it.

It's almost impossible to figure out what happened during the depression.Hi all, doing a little research on a pistol which my wife's uncle is handing down to our son.Its a S&W, 6 shot 22 LR revolver, the right side of the barrel reads '22 LONG RIFLE CTG.' All the serial numbers on the underside of the barrel, bottom of hand grip, and backside of the cylinder all match.The SN is: K210537.Can anyone give a estimation on the date of manufacture?Obviously the grips are not original, would like to get some original grips if anyone knows where I might get some at.See attached photos.Thanks in advance for your assistance.Randy. Randy, welcome to the forum. With that serial number, the gun probably shipped in 1954.The proper grips for that era are called diamond magnas. These have a relieved diamond in the checking field around the screw escutcheons on both sides. The name magna identifies the style of grip in which the wood comes up over the sideplate and frame, rising to the height of the frame knuckle right behind the trigger. Your gun might also have come with target stocks, in which the wood follows a semicircular upper curve from the frame knuckle down to the rear trigger guard junction with the frame.The following guns are not K-22s, but they show the types of stocks I mentioned.The K-22 is a K-frame gun (or midsize), so you are looking for K-frame magnas or target stocks of the proper era.

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N-frame stocks are too large and J-frame stocks are too small. Old stocks can be found on Ebay, Gunbroker, and in the classified section of this forum.

Randy, welcome to the forum. With that serial number, the gun probably shipped in 1954.The proper grips for that era are called diamond magnas. These have a relieved diamond in the checking field around the screw escutcheons on both sides. The name magna identifies the style of grip in which the wood comes up over the sideplate and frame, rising to the height of the frame knuckle right behind the trigger. Your gun might also have come with target stocks, in which the wood follows a semicircular upper curve from the frame knuckle down to the rear trigger guard junction with the frame.The following guns are not K-22s, but they show the types of stocks I mentioned.The K-22 is a K-frame gun (or midsize), so you are looking for K-frame magnas or target stocks of the proper era.

N-frame stocks are too large and J-frame stocks are too small. Old stocks can be found on Ebay, Gunbroker, and in the classified section of this forum. Hi all, this is my first post here. I was given an old K22 that belonged to my grandfather. I'm trying to date it and was hoping you guys could help me.Serial: K 468XX (on bottom of grips)^^^this is a picture of the firearm. Thanks in advance to all the nice people here!Welcome to the forum. That serial number points to 1948 manufacture, probably in the second half if we assume S&W produced and numbered their frames sequentially.

(They didn't always do that.)By the way, the stocks on your gun are prewar service stocks from the early to mid 1930s. Your gun almost certainly shipped with postwar magna stocks, which are the type that rise up over the sideplate on the right and the frame on the left. Generally, it not having the original grips does influence the value.

Its not all that bad since there are vultures circling and wanting the ones you have. Sometimes you can break even on the swap. Just don't expect the new ones to fit like a glove. Back in that era they fitted the wood to the metal, then used a belt sander to make them perfectly fitted.Prices on old K22s wander all around. They've been going up.

Condition means a bunch, and so does having the correct gold box and black oxide screwdriver. Suffice it to say a 1948 K22 should be worth $800 or so, more or less based on condition and other things.

I have a 6' s&w.22 with s/n 661xxx. It probably was shipped around 1935-6?It looks like it is a K-22 outdoorsman in the blue book.I bought this gun in a pawn shop in Wyoming in the early 1990's. It was the dirtiest gun I have ever had.

I cleaned it andhit a can at 25 yards with the first shot out of it.Also, I just found in a store, a 4' Smith 17-3 in.22, it has some holster wear on the left side.What would be the official model of this gun? Manufactured 1958 and later. I took numbers AVN1296 & G7x2578 off where the clyinder opens so they are probably not serial numbers. They have $650 on it.

Whats it worth? No box.This is a great site with good information and beautiful pictures. The pictures are hard on me,now I want more and nicer smiths.thank you.

Why dont you give us the serial number of your gun (you can X out the last few digits if you are paranoid) and we can give you an approximate date. Also, frames shared serial number blocks among models. In other words there would have been K22's, K32's and K38's all sharing the same serial number range.

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It is even possible to have consecutive serial number guns that are different models as Smith didnt do things in serial number order.Hi there, I am buying a K-22 and interested in the manufacture date, the serial number is 16 K 8343Thanks.